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February 13, 2005

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marilyn

I think it is great that you are enjoying who you are in your relationship to the Lord. I am sure He likes living in you and with you, with your style of being. I am, in contrast, meditative for chunks of time. That's just me. I know He enjoys me too. It's a marriage in the true sense, it's the connection that any healthy Christian marriage is a fuzzy picture of.

I know in a growing marriage I have all kinds of times, not just quiet, with my husband. And, alot of exquisite quiet as well. I guess it's okay to have a quiet time.

Walker

absolutely, it is okay to have a quiet time. What I want to consider is that perhaps a quiet time, in and of itself, is a inadequate approach to Bible study.Many of my friends measure their spiritual life by consistency in queit times and not in love for Jesus/people, which is the aim of Bibe study to begin with. So I am not doing away with meditative queit times, just saying that Bible study should not be restricted to that.

marilyn

Hello, I am asking some of my friends to read the pieces on this musings blog. I hope they do. It's got the fragrance of some of the L'Abri stuff I enjoy.

Now I will wait to read what you write back on the Funk and Faith train of thought.

Christie

I think this issue has much to do with personality. The main thing is that in some method you are reading and stuyding the Bible and allowing it to transform you. I get a lot out of preparing to teach, and that kind of thing, but sometimes, at least for me, it can become a little impersonal. So I often need that secluded time...but a personal relationship with Christ is what it's all about - however you go about getting there.

d white

Will-
I'm on board. Chuck the quiet times and meet with Jesus! Sometimes I wonder what our communities would look like if we would stop checking off the box and start allowing the Scriptures to soak into our souls. Heck, even the Pharisees "knew" stuff, yet they missed Jesus. Thanks for the post.

paul

I think that one of the difficult things about adjusting our thinking about "quiet times" is that it hits at one of the core areas of "discipleship" that we learn in, maybe, step 2 of the 12-step process of discipleship in evangelical settings.

In my times with guys I mentor, one of my first questions is, without fail, "How are your times in the Word?" The funny thing is that I've been studying other stuff that Paul has said in Colossians, and he seems to be pretty much against expecting man-centered, common sense outward actions to produce a healthy walk with Christ. He actually lists some "don'ts" that he has the gall to say "have the appearance of wisdom... but lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence."

I'm pretty sure he's not talking about quiet times here, but he also refers to the "basic principles of this world," which I take to be what we often call common sense. Stuff like: if you want to know God, read about Him in His revealed Word. That makes sense, but what is going too far is insisting that in order to know God, you have to read the word EVERY day, and that this one outward act is a good indicator of your spiritual health.

I think, ultimately, your walk will be set on a good course if you are absorbed in the Word of God. Jesus seemed to deem it important that we "abide in" [dwell on] His words. Plus, the above quoted verse by Paul about the word of Christ "dwelling" in us. Obviously I'm not advocating "throwing the baby out with the bath water." I simply admit that I can be quite legalistic with my insistence that I and others have daily "quiet times."

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